Grrl Power #1429 – The whole hole
Action pages are hard to comment on usually, because “he punched that other guy real good,” is sometimes about all you can say about them. In this case, my only real comments are that I’ve decided to call the buff grey alien “The Grey Anatomy.” I haven’t decided on a name for the fairy yet.
I actually don’t think a species that doesn’t have mouths would have much call for gastroenterologists. If they have no mouths, they can’t really eat. That doesn’t mean they don’t have some sort of digestive process, but maybe it’s from absorbing nutrient infused humidity or sunlight or whatever. Presumably there’s some waste involved, no matter the process. It might just be water and salt that comes out with sweat, so… maybe Greys don’t have a cloaca? We’ll assume a minimum of orifices on them, generally speaking.
Speaking of Irish accents, if you haven’t seen Derry Girls, (available on Netflix in the U.S.) I highly recommend it. It’s really funny. And I’ll be honest, I got a bit more out of it once I turned on the subtitles. I was only understanding about 85% of what they said. Some of that is admittedly from my slowly waning old man hearing (which isn’t bad enough to require hearing aids yet, despite my family history of hearing loss – something I’m not looking forward to), and some of it is from general ADHD, but mostly my comprehension issues involved a lot of rapid fire and amusing slang.
Also, Father Ted is incredibly funny, with generally more comprehensible jargon. Except for Father Jack. He doesn’t say much, but anything beyond “DRINK!” and “GIRLS!” can be a little hard to understand IMO.
Oh, one more thing. While drawing this page, I was thinking that while forming a singularity via magic would probably take a lot of energy and effort, throwing one, and doing it without it collapsing or exploding immediately would probably take a whole lot more. I mean, how do you move something like that? I’d think it would take a lot more gravity to throw one of those that it did to form it, because it’s not like it slowly began to accelerate. The pixie shot it off at a speed that’s presumably difficult to dodge. Of course, who the heck knows with physics derived from magic? Archmages, presumably. But I just meant like, in general, magic is mysterious and capable of… well, whatever the writer wants.
Oh, look, I guess I did find something to talk about.
Here’s one of Gaxgy’s in progress shots of the painting Maxima promised him. Weird how he draws almost exactly like me.
I’ve finished the main picture with the nude variant. (More like the clothing is the variant, because it’s easier to add clothes than erase them.) But I haven’t finished the bonus comic yet, so I’ll update the incentives soon.
Patreon doesn’t have a nude version yet, but I’ll try and update this each week until it’s done.
Double res version will be posted over at Patreon. Feel free to contribute as much as you like.
doom? DOOOOOOOOM? DID YOU SAY DOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM??
I snorted with laughter so hard I hurt my soft palate. Ow. That caught me off guard, good job, hahaha.
I’ll take “Meme-able Vtuber Moments” for $100, Alex.
I was looking for this as soon as I saw the black hole lol
Well, the fairy appears to be some variety of Cockney, and wonderfully foul mouthed, so how about Raucous Ruby?
Oirish, not Cockney (completely different country of origin)
I was thinking “Fairly Foul Mouthed”.
Surely Sydney is taking notes.
I’m torn between “Tink O’Bell” and “Manic Pixie Derry Girl”.
Derry Airie
Maybe a play on “Dolly Thrice” or “Dolly Dolly Dolly”?
If you can create a black hole, giving it a desired velocity vector wouldn’t be that much harder.
Especially if you give it spin as you create the “Black Hole”.
Yeah, creating a black hole from nothing implies an ability to manipulate the Higgs field, and once you can do that accelerating it should be child’s play. Really, any being that can manipulate quantum fields like that should wipe the floor with opponents who are just using classical mechanics.
You would think so.
Are they using classical mechanics though? None of the feats shown in this fight would be possible under physics as we know it.
I wonder if the one with the wind is related to Gardevoir. Admittedly I know almost nothing about Gardevoir except that they are apparently very sexualized and that they create black holes
I feel compelled to point out that an actual black hole that size would have already consumed not only that area. Of course, the actual size of the hole is somewhat unclear due to not having a solid reference for the size of the pixie there, but even if it’s just the size of a marble that would be the mass of the entire Earth right there. Unless faceless guy there is massively stronger than even Max has been shown to be, he has zero chance of stopping it with pure physical strength. Lacking some sort of magical dempening field, or whatever, it’ll rip right through him while consuming most of his mass and ripping the rest of him apart with tidal forces, and keep right on going, eating anything in its path until it eventually eats the whole planet.
Oh sorry, I got lost in what I was saying enough that I forgot what I was planning to end with: “Which means that this is probably NOT an actual black hole, and instead just some sort of magic imitation of a black hole that will be much easier to deal with because this is a comic, not a science paper.”
Having a creature the size of a pixie create and then throw at speed, something with the mass of the earth (or actually much more, based on size), even with magic, would violate every known law of physics. This is a stretch even in a universe with super-powers. Here the laws of physics tend to be shoved in a corner where they can only stammer, push their classes up, and stammer “well, akchually” while everyone ignores they exist, but still, they supposedly do actually exist.
I was assuming she created a portal or wormhole to a black hole. It’s been proven that one side of a portal can move in this universe (#642), so “throwing” one with magic should be possible.
Except that that also is encroaching on cheating, i.e., participants can’t open portals to direct the broadside fire from a fleet of offsite starships into the arena. Maybe if she kept a black hole in “hammerspace”?
https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Sphere_of_Annihilation
A black hole by any other name…
Magic suckholes are probably not an actual star-collapsed-into-quantum-singularity, because that would for one take a huge amount of energy to create, and for another also suck in the caster and everything.
But more likely some magic spell that -simulates- the effects of a black hole on a limited basis, and thus… can do whatever the writer wants them to do as long as the spell lasts!
And being a mere spell, they would not actually have real mass, but more likely just make an “illusion of gravity”, and thus… easy to move around. At least that would be the magikbabble I’d come up with!
I think it would make more sense to just have it be a portal to an empty void that pulls things in due to vacuum pressure.
One of the problems with the way these fake “black holes” are usually presented is that they tend to “suck” like vacuum cleaners, and pull in lightweight objects more than heavy ones. That’s not how a localized, levitating center of gravity would behave; they would pull on all objects equally depending on whether or not they were the dominant gravitational influence in a given point of space.
Since they behave like vacuum cleaners, they should just BE vacuum cleaners. We already know magical portals exist, so there’s no reason why one can’t lead into empty space.
Translation: It’s not a ‘mass that has overcome neutron degeneracy pressure and is now a singularity bounded by an event horizon’, it’s a old fashioned Sphere of Annihilation from D&D.
And I wonder if Grey Anatomy is related to SuperMassive.
Just to be clear, this is not a literal astronomical black hole. A real black hole about this size would weight as much as the entire earth. If you were a little less than a meter away from such an object, you would experience gravitational forces of about a hundred trillion g’s. Under ideal circumstances, matter falling into a black hole can be converted into energy at a rate of about 30 percent of MC squared. The planet they are standing would be immediately tidally disrupted, while the equivalent of an anti-matter explosion would be taking place at the site of the former arena. Ongoing.
Let’s just assume that this is a Black Hole Analogous Magical Object, otherwise known as a B.H.A.M.O.
Assuming the pixie was about the size of my pinkie finger, sure; An Earth mass blackhole would have a diameter measured in millimeters. And would have instantly spagettified her.
I expect the rules, such as they are, probably prohibit the use of gravitational singularities large enough to not rapidly evaporate, simply because they want to be able to use that planet again.
But creating a black hole to use as a weapon reminds me of Max’s lecture about how you never hit people with cars, because if you’re strong enough to do it, your fists hit harder than a car anyway. The amount of power you need to create even a quantum black hole that will last a few seconds is so great, (And the amount of control you need to pull it off!) you’re better off just hitting the target with that power.
It’s probably “just” a D&D “Sphere of Annihilation”.
nah if you have the power to create and throw black holes around do it unless you want to use the planet you are standing in for something later, a black hole is a literal insta win button there is nothing in the known universe that can stand up to one
An Earth-mass Kerr black hole (non-rotating) would have a diameter of 17 mm, but that much gravity would warp space enormously, so somehow measuring 17 mm close to it would be extremely interesting. This disruption of space looks to be about the size of a black hole, the mass of Saturn, about 0.84 m. A black hole that size would absorb the insignificant mass of the planet they are on in a few hours. Clearly, this is not a black hole or neutron star, but something much more benign.
It probably wouldn’t *absorb* the planet so much as turn it into a fast-moving extremely hot accretion disk orbiting the black hole. Just as fatal for the planet’s inhabitants, though
You need a better acronym generator.
Eg. “Barely Legal Extemporanious Singularity Simulation” = BLESS (as in “bless you”)
Have another crack at it.
Just a warning: Father Ted’s writer is a rather pathetic bigot.
Lost his wife and kids because he spent christmas dinner on twitter ranting about trans people, and has only gotten worse since then. Gets off on assulting teen girls nowadays.
… Didn’t Father Ted end long before Twitter was a sparkle in some twit’s twat?
Yeah. just need to learn to seperate the art from the artist.
Also, ARSE! Father Jack was the best.
To an extent yes,
But there comes a point where you have to decide if you want your money to go to supporting somebody.
There are also ways to enjoy something without contributing to its creator. Some are even legal!
The original meaning of “separate the art from the artist” was that your critical interpretation of a piece of art should not depend on the artist’s intent. It does *not* mean that it’s morally acceptable to shell out bucks for the latest Harry Potter tie-in when that money is going to be used to destroy the lives of trans people in Great Britain.
Will you not have a cuppa tea Father Jack?
Feck!
Ah, go on, go on, go on.
“Death of the Author” is far easier to do when the author is actually, y’know, dead.
Some people don’t want to wait
Or, at least maybe speed up the process
Wow that’s some weaselly use of the language. He didn’t ‘assault a teen girl’, especially not in the way that phrase has come to mean in the Age of Epstein. Rather, she ran up to him with a phone in her hand, shoving it in his face, and he smacked it away, causing it to fall to the ground and be damaged.
Yes, he’s a Gender-Crit Feminist, and if you disagree with him on that, then fine. But when you lie and slander someone just to make them seem worse than they are, rather than sticking to their actual positions, it only weakens you and makes you look ridiculous. (See also: “JKR is an anti-semite!”)
He did rather more than “smack it away.” And then his behaviour in court should have got him thrown in jail for contempt all by itself.
And Joanne Rowling has done literal, criminal-in-Germany holocaust denial.
Something tells me Pixie Grrrl and Grey Guy have a ….. History…..
She could have launched that…. B.H.A.M.O. ( good one!! ;) )…. at a more tactically sound target, like the Big Bot, but instead launched it at Grey Guy with some very specific abuse…
Domestic Quarrel? Lover’s Spat? Kayfabe? Who knows….
With the fan assumptions of which participant was standing where in the opening scene (#1425), The Grey Anatomy (originally wearing a gold breastplate, lower right) was the closest participant to the unnamed B.H.A.M.O.-wielding Pixie (three pixels on a rock just above and to his left). Nothing personal, just taking out the closest opponent.
If that fairy’s a cockney , then I’m the Emperor of China. You hear better cockney accents on East Enders (i realise that’s an entirely English joke…)
Fairies are called Tinkerbelle. End of.
I’d’ve gone with Dick van Dyke in Mary Poppins, but I’m old
Faeries are another term for Sidhe, and if I was ever informed I was about to be dealing with faeries, my first question would be “what kind?”
Little flower faeries/pixies are usually pretty easy going, just try to not piss off a swarm of them.
Dealing with Mab, the Queen of Air and Darkness, would require a whole lot more composure and care.
Where’s that “black hole” graphic come from? Its on the credits for “Lower Decks”
Father Jack never says anything except “DRINK, FECK, GIRLS” except when the Bishop is coming. Then he has been taught to say “that would be an ecumenical matter”
yeah, that cannot be a blackhole, but then again, she looks more like a fairy/magical being than whatever, so i guess it’s a spell… DOOM…
Those where not the paws was expecting to see on Blarney…
I had to look twice and zoom in to be sure that Maxima is still wielding Barney’s bat.
I concur that the Glasuckhole is a magic spell and not a singularity.
I would name the Fey who cast it “Fae”, but her stage name for the tournament should be “Tinkerhell”.
“Father Ted” is also bigoted against the Catholic Church.
In response to that last: is it? Having watched it with the greatest Father Ted fan I know, who was and is a devout Catholic, I’d argue it never implies that the priests on Craggy Island are in any way representative of the Catholic Church as a whole; in fact, they’d been banished there as punishment for prior events.
The good news is that you do not need a lot of gravity to create a black hole. The gravity is a side product.
The bad news is that you need a rather unhealthy amount of energy to produce a black hole with a radius of 1 meter.
About the equivalent of 100 earth masses (so times the light speed squared to get the energy equivalent).
And you have to keep the whole thing compressed rather fiercely to have it stay that size while you pour in the equivalent of many many millennia of the total energy output of our sun into a rather small opening (with a radius of 1 meter). There is a reason why black holes form accretion disks after all. You can shove only so much energy through a tiny (relative to its mass) Schwartzschild radius.
I nominate
She (with the potty mouth)
for our new favourite faerie.
Maybe she should meet the flying bug from Merceneiress :)
there’s a song about her by the space beach boys
Twinklevox? Never heard that song before
Dunno if anyone else has called this yet but now I definitely think grey dude is Vehemence pulling a Maxima
Everyone seems to be forgetting about time dilation effects of black holes. It probably doesn’t help viewership of your fight when everyone looks like they’re standing still. Imagine everyone smacking their futuristic view screens and cursing.
Gastroenterology refers to the stomach (gastric) and intestinal (enteric) regions, so as long as Grey Anatomy has at least one of those — or something with enough resemblance for the medical treatments to be similar — he could plausibly benefit from a gastroenterologist’s assistance.
There are ways to eat that don’t involve a mouth. Considering this alien’s seemingly-humanoid body structure, I won’t speculate further.
That alien looks like Colonel Bleep on steroids….!
So these are 2 fights going on at once?
It’s a giant free-for-all: everyone is fighting everyone else
Why is the fairy Irish? Other than the accent being funny to transcribe I mean.
Space Oirish, and why not?
At least it’s not Space Scouse :P
As the acting director of ARCFUNNY, the Functional Unnamed NPC Naming Yunit (sorry about that last one Ariana, but that’s what happens when you ignore my texts for two hours), we have given her the name “Suck Hole Girl”. If she puts in a better showing in this fight than she has so far, we’re considering upgrading her to “Faerie Princess Suckhole”.
Is that Max’s bat flying loose in the upper left quadrant of Panel One?
Nom she’s still holding it.
It looks like my guesstimation on its size was way off. Thus the calculations I did last page were off too. If she’s swinging it like a bat, drop the effective mass by 40%. But for total mass, like using in the style of a pool cue, drop by ~22%. Still estimates though.
Angry Pixie Death Girl?
Fae Fangirl Death Portal
Tinkerwell? (As in gravity well?)
I’m hearing her accent as “Angry Leprechaun”
… Aren’t all Leprechaun’s angry?
I couldn’t help but notice that “Grey” looks kinda-sorta similar to “Ixha”, and now I’m wondering if Deus didn’t enter his own ringer in the contest under similar circumstances. It seems like the type of thing he’d do, to earn extra space-bucks or whatever.
Or course I’d love to see some NEW characters introduced, so every plot doesn’t have to revolve around the same half-dozen people.
My standing guess is that’s Kevin (aka Vehemence), and the grey man disguise means he doesn’t need to ka-pants for this fight.
Could be, but I doubt it. As we learned with Vehemence/Kevin, it takes time and sustained violent activity for him to really power up, whether that’s the initial super-brawl or training his way through the entirety of ARC-SWAT. This being a competition with such heavy hitters, he could easily get wiped before he has time to charge.
True. Although this is bracket 26, so he could have gotten energy from the other fights. Or from any fights, really. Could have charged up before arrival. Maybe on Gygaxia (ref comic 1359).
I just sorta threw the idea out there a few pages ago, and several small hints have led me to lean into this hypothesis. It does depend on if, when, and how Kevin got off planet; they never addressed whether Kevin got approval to go with Tom, and it’s possible that Deus popped a portal in to swap Kevin for a body double.
Horn-horse is NOT Kev
Never said he was. Hoss does not have a monopoly on access to dangerous places.
Gygaxia’s description indicates it is a planet/dimension full of dangerous and potentially violent inhabitants (up to and including deities), which seems to be very much not a secret, and the ban on technology means that Earth society’s relatively low tech level (by galactic standards) would not result in a disadvantage.
I don’t know what her “entire hole” is, but I know it’s not what we understand is a “black hole type singularity”. If it were, at that size, then she, the arena and the entire planet they’re on would be spaghettified in a nanosecond.
But it would kill the guy she aimed it at. Let’s call that a win.
Tinkerhell.
Kill-o-the-Wisp
The Fey-tality
Ashes-to-Ashes-Fairy-Dust-to-Fairy-Dust
The Spritemare
Mean-erva
Pummelina
Tomb-erbelle
Geniecide
The Tooth Taker
I like The Fey-tality!
Pictsy Perfect, changeling curse, Pixel
HoleSum. See below.
I would assume the black hole is surrounded by some kind of arcane forcefield to keep it safe and stable and it’s “thrown” by opening a small hole in the force field you want it to go, so the gravity negating effect of the force field allows the hole to be pulled to it’s target rather than pulling the target to it, as from the outside, the black hole is temporarily weightless.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me that you’re about to launch into one of your famed meta-commentaries on how that isn’t and can’t be a real black hole because it behaves nothing at all like a real black hole and about how dumb “black holes” in poorly-written fiction are.
From the establishing shot, let’s say Tinkerhell is 1/3 the size of Maxima, so around 2 feet. The B.H.A.M.O.is around half her size in diameter, so a foot or 6 inches. A Schwarzschild-Radius of 3 inches (half of diameter) would necessitate a black hole with 8.59 times the mass of the earth and due to it’s miniscule size have a gravitational field strength of 60 quadrillion times that of the Earth at the event horizon.
Tinker Blam
I still say that’s Greybuff the Anatomically Perfect.
woohoo! Some action~
If that were a real mass contained by an event horizon, the gravitational flux would destroy everything in the vicinity. A four inch event horizon is already three times the mass of the Moon, and you’re putting that well within the Roche limit. Hell, the atmosphere interacting with the event horizon itself would be like a nuclear explosion. So I’m going to assume that’s not a real event horizon but something magical that just looks like one.
Eating black holes for breakfast.
What does he eat for lunch?
So this is a free-for-all? I guess I missed that. I read so many different comics, manga, and stories I sometimes forget details from one to another.
Tinkerhell, obviously.
Alternatives: Tinkerfell, Faetality (good one, @Snowtwo), For Whom the Fae Tolls, Doom-Fey, Faetal Attraction, Infaemous, The Winged Fury (boooring), Seelie-you-later, Faeynman, Faenglorious, Faeth and Begorrah, Titania, Queen Mab, The Seventh Seelie, Infaerna.
(actually he was responding to my calling her The Feytality as one of a bunch of suggested names. :) )
Apologies, @Pander. Snowtwo’s comment was the first place I noticed it.
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Now that I think on it, that obviously should have been “For Whom the ‘Belle Tolls”.
Didn’t we already meet “FWtBT” during the Restaurant Rumble, several decades ago?
You claiming this is his sister?