Grrl Power #264 – The team receives some bad news -OR- Oh crap is right
Yuuup! Do me a favor and imagine the dramatic music rising as they talk, then the sting right after Dabbler says “…violence” Dunnnnnn! In fact it’s probably best if you read the remainder of the fight while listening to some track from Two Steps From Hell, who are hard to beat when it comes to god damned epic music. Actually, listening to some good Two Steps From Hell tracks makes stuff like shopping for groceries feel a lot more life and death. If the comic was movie or tv show, I’d definitely use that gag. I do have some “audio required” jokes that I’m saving for the movie version. :)
Drawing a 50 person battle royale for my first fight was daunting, but this was a big part of the reason for it. I knew Vehemence would settle for nothing less, and now the team has unwittingly powered him up to the point that he’s capable of trading blows with Maxima. In fact actually trading those blows was quite helpful to him. Like a succubus, it’s good to be near the action, but much better to be directly involved.
As villains go, I think Vehemence’s powers are pretty original, at least to my knowledge. It’s a good part of the reason why genre savvy Sydney didn’t peg him before he gave it away. After I thought him up, I was able to come up with a few other antagonists with similar abilities though. Certainly a few entities from Star Trek fed on conflict or anger. War, from the Incarnations of Immortality books owed his godhood to ongoing wars, and Ares from DC comics is powered by conflict, but I think making it akin to tantric magic is more or less unique, so I’m pretty proud of him. It also makes me think of what other abilities could be derived from a normally intangible source of energy. An angel powered by charity? An Avaristic user, powered by wealth and greed? Straight up good or evil? There’s a lot of potential there, something I’ll probably explore a bit more in the Grrl-verse. :)
Boy that last panel took a lot of work, and I’m sure it’s missing many a scorch mark and crack. I know panels prior to this haven’t really shown the cumulative damage very well, and if I have some time I’d like to go back and fix that, but like I’ve said before, drawing rubble is quite tedious. I also would have liked to have shown everyone laying unconscious where they fell for maximum effect, but I already established that Harem and Sydney were carrying them from the field of battle and sedating them. There should be more flaming bits of Shawn’s car scattered everywhere and stuff like that, but I basically worked on the panel until I ran out of time and had to start coloring. Still, I think it carries the impact I wanted pretty well.
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quick call The Hippy XD
Simply throwing him away into the middle of the ocean will win the fight. He has no movement powers.
As a side note, Vehemence is remarkably well-preserved for someone who gets charged up by violence. Maybe his injuries heal as his charge runs out? Alternately, maybe healing him will sap his power. Actually, I like that idea a lot. Time for Sydney to discover she has a healing orb!
That sounds pretty violent. Are you 100% sure he has no movement powers, because I really wouldn’t want him coming back!
He went from punching Maxima, to being midair then landing while she was helped in her leap away. Previous panel. He’s got good loft.
Also. If he attacks the ocean vehemently/violently with each stroke, wouldn’t that counter any exhaustion?
If Vehemence could effectively power himself up with his own violence, the setup for this fight would make no sense.
nope because you used action that was violent in nature against him so throwing him into ocean wont work
I was thinking of having max super-speed V into orbit and leave him there. No move powers means max can wait outside his reach until he turns blue.
The other thought I had was Sydney throwing her shield around V. That’s assuming her shield can take what V dishes out until he expends his powerup.
And unlike space or the ocean, if V suddenly sprouts a bunch of new magic abilities, such as teleporting, we already know Sydney’s shield blocks a lot of that kind of crap. She’d just have to make sure her field was a bubble, not a dome.
V ‘s ability is almost identical to a 4th ed Champions character I made and never played. In my case he was the god Aries. His big power was an area-effects form of Energy Absorption that provided no defense to anybody, but whenever someone hit or blasted someone else, it would still power him up.
Damn it Vorlonagent, I think you’re doing this on purpose. And in the second post thread on this page?
But OK… I’ll take it, grudgingly…
And one more time: at least in the current skill tree of her power set, Halo has to be inside her shield when it is deployed! It is not a projectable force field ala Susan Storm.
@anifreik yes at the moment she does, but we dont know if she can cast it on others as of yet i get the feeling she doedsnt even know if she can cast on other with being inside the zone where she casting it around her..
so it may be that she needs to experiment with the orb to see if it can even do that and what better way to experiment then what we see how
I’m pretty certain Dave himself said no.
Well, he just stupidly gave away his weakness. Stand 500 miles away and pitch rocks at him. If this is a violence (emotion) power…well, there’s no emotion at all in a rock. And any emotion involved in throwing the rocks is too far away to feed on.
If you want to go even further, have Dabbler tell Maxima where to throw the rocks, but not why. Then no emotion at all.
If by violence you mean – explody things, mass destruction, etc. with no emotional content required, then you can only restrain him, and the entire earth is a huge charging station for him, since entropy rules
So teleport, toss, or whatever his sorry butt into space and let him suffocate..
A surprising number of super powers come down to gribbly little semantic arguments. Throwing a rock at someone is violent of course? Is being hit by a rock? Yeah, by most people’s definition that is. Rockslides are violent, as are earthquakes. For Vehemence’s purposes, he gets power from any source of violence, but violence with intent… tastes better and is more nutritious, for lack of a better way to say it.
That’s why I don’t mind a certain amount of ambiguity in super-powers (or magic or whatever your power-source de jour is). So long as you don’t start to contradict yourself or push power-creep to far leaving yourself a little wiggle room is good.
that wouldn’t work i think it works of the intent of violence, i.e fighting hurting non emotions that we think of. i think it means physical energy use in other words shooting, rock throwing, even using a water gun on him due it was considered a violent act against him and or anyone around him.. so in away the best way to fight him is not to use any kinetic energy that would be absorbed in any means to stop person.. i.e even a police officer that tackles a criminal with handcuffs would power him up because of the criminal that tries to struggle against the officer
While I generally think you’re a fantastic artist Dave, and I know you often look up real hardware to make it accurate in the comic. I’ve gotta call you out on those trees in the last panel though, really not up to your usual standard.
Drawing things really small presents some interesting challenges. It’s a skill I haven’t developed yet.
As long as they’re happy trees, you’re ok.
Where’s Bob Ross when you need him?
*whistles innocently*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGN5xaQkFk0
There is nothing “innocent” about your whistle. I’ve caught on to you.
I’ve seen some artists handle this by drawing large on big paper, scanning, and shrinking.
Aaand, this is the Point where he will go on a rant about how; “You will never be able to stop me! Muahahah!” >:D
and then Sydney traps him in her unbreakable, airproof, forcefield time-out bubble?
I’m sure Captain Obvious will be along at any minute to remind you that Syd has to be at the center of her bubble, which would be really unhealthy for her with V right next to her.
Not to mention syd has enough ‘vehemic energy’ to charge V by herself alone :P
but now that he HAS foolishly revealed his secrets to her (and all of Archon for that matter, but still, she asked nicely…) she, being the Genre-Savvy person that she is, should now have a better idea on HOW to subvert his trope, and defuse the situation so that Archon wins the day…
I already had my fix curtsy of Vorlonagent above…
But technically Xien posted earlier so… ;P
Hey, I think they missed the “Sydney catch him in her force field” comment on page 3. Maybe we’re making progress…
but I wouldn’t bet on it.
Nope, I’ve collected that trophy…
Good, because we wouldn’t want to see it atrophy.
Oh? missed that one, a thousand apologies to your ancestors and most thankful words of gratitude for pointing that one out, thought I was the first one. :)
Didn’t know about the whole thing about Sydney being the center focus of the forcefield though, is fairly obvoius when someone points it out like that.
But that just makes me more excited to find out how they’re going to stop him. Can’t wait for the next update to come out. :D
Sorry Xien you got caught up in a running joke in the comments. It has actually been going on for a few updates now.
Throws another trophy at Cpt . Obvious.
Ouch! Hey stop that, those hurt!
Well, we all know that it was after strip #247 (If violence fails, violence harder!) that people started suggesting she would use the forcefield to suffocate perps, but I don’t know that there has been stated anywhere in comic that she can’t project the forcefield around someone or something else. It’s never been shown, but theoretically it’s something she could be able to do.
Note that I wrote “theoretically”.
There is however a few pages that suggest that it’s most likely that Sydney has tried, and failed to do just that. What I’m talking about is the testing that Sydney and Maxima did on the artillery range in strips #159 – #161.
While there again is nothing said or shown about Sydney trying to project the forcefield you have to keep in mind what they are doing. Sydney is putting up the best shield she can, and Maxima is testing what kind of damage is can withstand. The first thing they would try would be to have Sydney shielding the concrete block and stand back so Maxima could go all out on it. But instead they do the tests with Sydney in bomb disposal gear, sitting behind the target inside the shield…
Strip #160 – Explodiest beam vs. the shieldiest shield, is the one that I feel shows this the best. If she could project that shield she wouldn’t be sitting there…
So, Vehemence is either a demon or a magic user. Probably a magic user, but I wouldn’t put it past him to start sprouting spines and horns. Dabbler, have you got anything?
Considering he’s powered by violence, does that mean that Vehemence could have been easily defeated at the beginning of the fight? Considering he wouldn’t have been charged up yet? Well, too late for hindsight.
Theoritcally speaking if they had put a straightjacket on him (Harem could do it without having enough time to be counteered) than moved him into a ……..an amusement park than yes it would work at the beginning of fight :p
You have no idea how much violence there is in an Amusement Park, do you
well my initial plan involves putting him on top of ferris wheel than pull the plug at top level so it will be like carrot on a stick :P
V already said that his power is an “innate” use of the energy; it’s like the way GURPS describes a “Magical Knack.” It doesn’t necessarily mean he’s a *user* of magic…It’s just that it’s comes to him naturally & he doesn’t have to *consciously* direct the energy the way a real “user” must.
Maybe he had to learn a particular spell to infuse him the “knack” (or someone else cast the spell on him), similar to how Juggernaut *became* what he is because he touched the Crimson Ruby of Cytorrak, but Dave hasn’t yet revealed much of his background yet.
**Is that the trope of an “origin story” I smell coming on?**
Of course, he’s also intelligent enough to have found out *what* that power is & learned about some other aspects of magic (he did know what Dabbler’s spell was when she tried & failed to use it), but it doesn’t mean that his power couldn’t work without that knowledge.
Does Vehemence need REAL violence to feed his power or would playing violent video games also give him a boost too?
I Hope so, or maybe a violent news clip put on loop while he sleeps!
I would think actual violance and all the emotions and energy related to it. If he could feed on taped violance he’d likey have come to the fight pre-buffed.
Given what <a href="“>DaveB wrote video games are probably not going to power him up, but I bet they taste good…
Why is everyone assuming he’s just a brute fighter with an unusual power source? He’s a bloody rage mage. The way he’s been charged up he might start slinging energy blasts or flying (I picture violence-flight as a series of continuous explosions launching the user through the air.)
Rage-powered jetpacks.
I’d quietly ask Sydney to toss her force field around him & cheerfully toss him into the sun.
But that would be too easy & there needs to be more plot.
I can’t believe it took 4 pages of comments before someone finally suggested that Sydney use her force field in a way that it can’t be used.
Don’t worry, it didn’t. I’ve seen it multiple times, sometimes per page. Captain Obvious is really raking in the trophies. Forget a new trophy case; we’re going to need a new wing of the building to lodge all those.
She has to be in the shield.
They should all power up Dabbler to be on the level of Vehemence.
I’m pretty sure that would make the comic NSFW
“Is this a form of battle?”
“It can be”
All the heroes face palm as a building explodes with their combined energies releasing during a night of passion
You make that sound like a bad thing…
Maybe it’s not the way Dave would make it go & maybe not everyone wants to see this comic go NSFW, but that doesn’t necessarily make it a “bad” thing.
I like the way you think!
This is how its done.
Especially if Dabbler kicks in that lust aura while pulling every sappy sweet kind romantic adorable kind of love makin’ to keep him from getting mad about what she’s doing in the first place.
Sure he seems to have more than just a bunch of random esoteric theory about the occult.
But its one thing to read about warnings that succubi can muck with your emotions
Its quite another thing to actually get hit by it.
especially when its aimed at you in particular not just the whole room.
I actually like that we don’t see the scale of the damage up to this point. It feels like a reveal and is a very nice contrast to the individual acts of destruction earlier on.
Intellectually we know that damage is being done, patchwork to do, a building leveled (that is basically a requirement for a fight of this scale), and then bigger stuff gets smashed when the powerhouses start going at it. But it all takes place from isolated points of view. Then this page comes up and we get to see the tally.
Damn!
I was thinking along these lines but the term coming to mind was Escalation (e.g. power that grows stronger the bigger the fight or the more fighting that’s done, so good to see that I wasn’t far off.
If Sidney and Dabbler work together, Vehemence doesn’t stand a chance.
That or Sidney can eat her favorite spicy food in front of him , the following vapors should TKO everyone within 3 city blocks of her.
You know, considering Dabbler’s usual attitude and the fact we know she’s one of the few to been a threat to Maxima, the fact that she’s taken a step back and grimacing just shows how dangerous this guy really is. But that still sounds like a good power. It reminds me of that animated armour Ares commissioned in Justice League Unlimited, where it keeps getting powered by fighting and the only way to beat it is to stop fighting near it. Of course, I doubt that Vehemence could be stopped like that, so back to square 1.
Yup, chuck him into the sea, Max (or Anvil). And if that doesn’t work, off to space it is.
Also, Fridge Horror: Imagine Vehemence in a war zone. Or on a more light-hearted note, at an Aussie Rules football game.
An Aussie Rules game? Are you MAD!!!!!
Sometimes I wonder if it shouldn’t be renamed as FreeForm team MMA…
Why are you saying “on a more light-hearted note”, and then say the same thing?
ok, can’t take him down with violence. Time to break out the whipped cream pies and water balloons. Make sure they are filled with ether and chloroform, and bob’s your uncle.
secondly, Peggy has another round in the chamber, I hope, because it’s time to play Three Stooges on his other eye.
Okay, sounds like he’s not going to be beaten by violence. Unfortunately, he seems pretty aware of what Dabbler is, which causes problems with that alternate way of defeating him (not that powering up Dabbler isn’t still an option), but I’m sure there are other possibilities.
If Dabbler knew a good way to beat him she wouldn’t be backing up and freaking out.
Maybe thats what she’s doing because deep down that is V’s Kink?
“oh no mister big bad pleeeeaaaassssse dont chase me (through the briar patch ;) I get all wobbly on my heels(hooves) and all runn juuuuuust fast enough to stay out of reach Eeek your so so so faaaast
Are you slowing down ? running out of juice? Oh no you were Sooooo close to having me Maybe if you try just a bit more…
whoops you caught me let me see if i can Raise your spirits….
%minutes later …
Ok Harem you can tag him and bag him.
Whats the matter Max? Sex as a weapon is a problem for you as well? Tell me more about it (pulls out the ‘make maxima say’ Bingo card)
Think you’re giving her too much credit there. Besides V’s knows about Dabblers powers so he’d be shore not to fall for something like that. Even so it would take a hell of allot more than that with how powered up he is now.
Dammit Dave… You may have just half-stolen my idea…
I just so happen to be working on a comic project of my own in which the main character is an “Energy Sink”, specifically, they can absorb ‘negative’ energy – Eventually this would include the ‘energy’ generated by strong negative emotions – The more hated the character is, the more powerful he becomes…
Bringing it back to Vehemence here… I guess that is the big question – Is it the *ACTS* of violence that power him up? Or is it the ‘violent intent’ of the combatants…?
~JD
I posted about superpowers and semantics earlier, my conclusion was all violence works on him, but violence with intent is a higher quality.
Solution: the calming pies from ‘Girl Genius’. “Take that, Brillat-Savarin!”
Okay, if you won’t let me use that, then:
Step 1: Max hits Anvil as hard as she can
Step 2: Now powered up, Anvil steps over and gives V a great big hug, possibly with some Marshmallow Hell added in
Step 3: Profit!
What? Step 3 is always ‘Profit!’
Hmmm,
There is always the option of mind-control/sleep.
Vehemence has not shown any particular resistance to such attacks and it may end the fight quickly.
Dabbler tried spellcasting on him earlier and he shrugged it off.
More specifically she cast Sava Lava Cuti, a sleep spell on him and… nothing! Well he did tell her it was way to weak to work on him.
There’s a simple solution to this problem…
1) Care bear stare!
Seriously though…
2) Levitate him no amount of super strength is going to help him if he can’t touch any surface hoping he has no flight or energy blast ability since his power is derived from violence then leaving him there might not be a good idea…
3) Banish him to the dimension of fluffy clouds… nah…
4) What you need is something designed to calm him down… how about polka music?
hmm might annoy him does Sydney using the lighthook to toss him into the sky so Maxima can maximum blast him into space work?
5) Drop him into a vat of jello or build an anti gravity device to attach to his back and have him levitated into a secure location…
Actually that last one is possible maybe get Dabbler to build something perhaps?
2) He has already shown he can overcome Sydneys lighthook strenght before going into his bout with maxima. Since he is a magic user, we can asume he has at least a counter to any Spell Dabbler can whip up (she is versatile, not powerfull). And nobody besides dabbler and Sydney have any form of telekinsis.
3) Actually getting a lock on him (without him getting one on you) might be the issue here. He won’t just be standing still.
4) Since he is full of vehemic energy right now, I doubt other emotions work that well on him. I would even say dabbler would not be able to seduce him right now. Her powers work wonders on normals and even supers like Jabberwocky. But this guy is using emotional energy too.
5) You have to build it first. And it must be deployed in a way he cannot reach it.
He was able to free himself from the lighthook because he had traction on the ground. No traction means no leverage for him to use his strength on to free himself. Therefore, it would be possible, theoretically, for Sydney to suspend him if he is already airborne. Then the silliness of it makes them all laugh, and his vehemic energy is cancelled.
or send Harem to take some Nitrous oxide (laughing gas)
Don’t you think he’s having fun enough now? He is not powered by emotions but by violence in it’s physical sense. Some violent intent is just a bonus, it makes the violence taste better…
And that is the Word of God (aka DaveB)
An important bonus that he was willing to take some extra damage and risk to get. It adds quality and “nutrition” according to DaveB. I think if all that violence had been done by dumb robots that bullet would have gone a lot farther in. (if not out the other side… )
Now I wonder what are other deadly sins called as energy (tantric-lust, vehemic-wrath, taking suggestions for other 5 :P)
Vampires are practically glutton monsters. They power up by drinking the life force of others.
If you want a literal one, try https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ben_10_aliens#Upchuck
I’m not sure a sloth super hero would work. “Oh no, the bank robbers are getting away. I must chase after them; very, very slowly.”
Actually sloth may work better than you think since these guys not only powered by their sins but they also impose them on others (at least succubusses works that way and I think Vehemence is also have some sort of aura that makes other act violently around him if he feels like the urge :P) so in a bank robber scenerio robbers will get so lazy they will just try to take a nap in the bac seat of a police car :P
And then Sydney just put a shield around him while everyone sat around and played Parcheesi. The end.
(or is Parcheesi too violent)
just what i was going to say since her shield is nearly in possible to break but how my force can he produce since he now stronger than max, wait make the shield drain the oxygen remember why sydeny had to pop the shield to let air back in due she used all the air.. just do that to him and that should work by cutting off his oxygen supply he should harmlessly pass out
I guess y’all haven’t noticed that every shield she’s ever made has her inside?
This idea, rather than protecting her, leaves her in rather awkward proximity to the threat…
I doubt we have seen the extent of how large her shield can be, so these ideas could have merit if she can extend her shield to two or three hundred feet, and just be out of range of his jump via fly orb.
Soooo…Sydney winds up being both his jailer and permanent cell mate?
Either way, it is a bad idea. :p
Only necessary until he runs out of power. Then she drops him, as he is, in the center of antarctica or the top of Mount Everest. And by “drop” I mean set down peacefully. Then extreme cold and shortage of oxygen should knock him out. Not that I think that Dave will take such a boring route…
Considering the fact V has shown MASSIVE range in his leap, it is a BAD idea. :p
ARC-SWAT GROUP HUG ATTACK, GO!
nope, won’t work… key word in your battle cry describes why: “Attack”… pretty much a dead ringer for being “violent”… therefore will actually power him up some more, not decrease his energy level…
Wow, I love the collective vibe of “Well shit…” on that reveal. First time ever commenting on these comics (social awkward level: Pro) But I wanted to say how much I love this comic, Dave. Reading this has been giving me some great inspiration to bunker down and work on my drawing skills so I can make my own comic and hopefully when I transfer from pen/paper to digital I can get it out there. Weird way of saying thanks, I suppose. But please keep up the awesome work!
Inspiring others is the best.. compliment? I don’t think that quite works grammatically, but you get the idea. So thanks and let me know when you’re getting ready to put something out. I like talking shop.
I’ll try to. Spent the day today working with a tablet for the first time. Testing the water with character sketches. Line art seems… frustrating. To say the least.
So, you touched someone’s muse, Dave? I’m going to skip the obvious perverted-joke from saying that…
I’d like to see the results if RI decides to post it on the ‘net.
question/speculation regarding his powers, if he is like dabbler in his ability to manipulate his gathered emotional energies (such as how she uses the beholder spell to send out a wave of lust) it could present a rather enormous challenge, as he could send out waves of violent/murderous intent which could A) cause them to keep hitting him. B) through some sort of rage based pseudo mind control, cause our arc-swatters to fight each other. also keep in mind violence is not strictly a present, here and now action that feeds him, he could be feeding from the ambient violent energies from the carnage around him, so getting him either out of there somehow like the previously stated “chuck him into the ocean” plans or restraining and transporting him might be the best ways
…Damn, I was hoping for another little speech bubble from Achilles, buried beneath all that rubble, with him saying, “…Guys? Why’s it so quiet now?”
Actually, If I were there, I’d unbury Achilles and tell him to go hug & cuddle Vehemence. Ruthlessly. (But not violently.)
Powered by violence? I wonder how powerful he would get if he was dropped into Walmart during Black Friday?
The world isn’t ready for that level of power!
What? You actually *want* to see Vehemence out-Hulk the Hulk?
“…is the worst idea in the long, sad history of bad ideas…”
~Dr. Malcom, 2nd Jurassic Park movie
I think now the is the right time to ask this about him: https://files.nyu.edu/kmg357/public/pictures/games/weakpoint.jpg
Seriously, he has to have a weakpoint. Some counter emotion. Some way to attack him that is not “violence” (like Sydneys slapstick actions).
But I doubt it is something simple like dabbler seducing him (he should be so full of vehemic power, tantric might not affect him anymore).
Dabbler is not that affected by tantroic magics weakness, because she has other powers.
Having only one power source makes the effects very strong. But it also means you have a weakness.
His weakness is Sailor moon :P
Very nice reveal, and nice concept. While Vehemence seems like a fascinating character, the concept isn’t that far removed from the various Lantern Corps in DC comics. The original Green Lanterns are powered by Willpower/Courage, followed by the Sinestro/Yellow Lanterns powered by Fear. The Star Sapphires ( aka Violet Lantern Corps) and the Red Lanterns came on the scene later powered by Love and Hate respectively.
green orb.
Well thanks to all the mindless violence that has occurred for the last hell of a lot of pages it looks like Vehemence got a ample supply of power to feed off of. And with no small help from a certain gold plated overkill master who shall not be named…. Maxima-chough!
And by the look of Dabbler and to quote a certain profanity spewing robot… There boned!
Simple solution: Have strong person fling him into the air, and have Halo hold him aloft with her lighthook. He has no leverage to free himself, and she is not truly doing anything that would be considered violent, any more than a rope doing the same thing would be considered violent. Then everyone laughs at him for how ridiculous he looks, and all vehemic energy in the area dissipates.
Alternatively, and far less PG-rated, everyone but V gathers under Halo’s shield, and then Dabbler pumps her lust aura to her max, and we have an orgy to cancel the vehemic energy with tantric energy. And Dabbler gets so powered up that even V gets effected Not that I think Dave will do that, but…
Alter-alternatively, we could just have Halo fly above him, higher than he can jump, and then activate her shield so that he is stuck in it, and lift him high into the air where there is no vehemic energy, wait for the energy he has already absorbed to run out, and then peacefully drop him on Mount Everest, where oxygen deprivation and bitter cold (two of the most peaceful aspects of nature) will quietly knock him out and/or kill him.
I bet Death Toll could drain him like he did Anvil…
If he was disguised as Max, and if he was conscious, and if he was willing, and if Vehemence was too distracted notice the switch-a-roo. Is it just me or does that sound like way too many “if”s?
which may be one of the reasons Vehemence pointed out For Whom The Bell Tolls to be taken down, before revealing himself? The other reason being of course, before For Whom The Bell Tolls can be taken down, much violence will be applied.
Strange though, two end bosses who can actually be taken down easier without applying violence…
Some writer giving some message perhaps…
Okay what about a tickle attack?
When you go on the offensive with nothing but a feather duster.
Sic Achilles on him, and if Achilles gets knocked away, retrieve him and sic him on Vehemence again.
Since Achilles does like no damage, Vehemence won’t get any stronger, and Achilles can eventually grind Vehemence down, like some time in November 2024.
wait…so that means Sydney is his natural enemy
think about it, when she tripped him it wasn’t with Violent intent it was for the laughs and because she was being mischievous, I doubt a person as mischievous as Sydney could do anything with REAL violent intent, as she doesn’t come off as the type to be that driven to it, (like Maxima has shown numerous times so far she seems to enjoy the violence in some small measure)
A thunderstorm will charge him. No violent intent there. Same with Sydney attacking him in any way that could be considered violent, such as tripping him. Intent is just like a flavor for him, it makes the violence taste better…
And that is the Word of God (aka DaveB)
You are aware that Sydney is probably best apetitzer for Vehemence right? If you forgot let me remind you something https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/416
Seems very Red lantern to me.
“I’m just a fan of violence…” I guess he was being literal when he said that.
I’m now wondering about the markings on Vehemence’s body. He’s using magic to gather the vehemic energy (presumably), and he doesn’t seem to be non-human like Dabbler. That might mean he’s using a spell, and that might mean the markings are part of the spell. If so, you don’t have to beat him up, you damage the markings and all the vehemic energy drains out (I’m thinking of this like using a pentagram to trap energy – break one of the lines and it all comes pouring out).