Grrl Power #1308 – Gold plated lining
The military is probably not great for disability inclusion. Not for field work anyway. I mean, battleships don’t have accessibility ramps, and the control panel of a Blackhawk probably doesn’t have braille anywhere on it, and there’s no spot in a submarine next to the sonar station for an ASL Interpreter. (Cause the sonar guy is deaf, see… and the ASL guy has to listen to the returns and sign “PING” cause that was an even dumber example than braille in a gunship*.) They’ve got really specific ways of doing things because if you tell a bunch of 18 year olds to put away the explodey things, you want to be pretty sure they did it right. That almost definitely means they don’t have a lot of accommodations for one-legged pilots. It’s probably totally possible to pilot most helicopters with one leg, but that doesn’t mean the military wants to add that complication when a bunch soldiers’ lives and a $10 million Blackhawk is at stake. So, Peggy assumes that her career as a pilot are over. At least flying for the Air Force. And she actually is right. But not for the reasons she thinks.
Maxima obviously has other ideas. And if anyone tells Max that a one-legged pilot shouldn’t be allowed to fly an Osprey, Max is just like, “Come at me, bro.”
*I originally mistyped gunship as bunship and I almost left it because the idea of bunnies piloting an Apache and fluffy bunny paratroopers amuses me.
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Peggy looks better with her natural hair color.
Remember, Peggy isn’t heterosexual. Whether *you* think she looks better with brown hair or not doesn’t matter. What matters is that other queer people can see her pink hair at 300 metres and start doing the One Of Us dance.
(The rainbow sleeve tattoo helps too, sure, but it’s less good in a crowd.)
Relax.
No.
What does matter is how Peggy feels. Not how I feel, nor how Olen feels, nor how you feel. You can feel that brunette is a good color of hair on someone as much as I hate my own hair color but don’t wish to lie about it either. We don’t choose our genetics but we do choose our feelings and how we support those feelings of those around us.
That said I think it’d be interesting to see her go for the camo green.
When I was in ATI, one of the people in my company did his hair up in tree suit camo, and it looked pretty good, right size and everything, but the MSgt. was Not Happy.
So which dwarf was he? I’ll show myself out…
Hey mate, do one, aite?
Gotta love the oh so tolerant rainbow mafia thinking they have the right to grant themselves the right to tell ppl who they are and are not allowed to be attracted to.
Heterophobe much.
No one said anything about being ALLOWED to be attracted to, you illiterate douche hog.
They said it doesn’t matter if he’s attracted to her, because it wouldn’t be reciprocated.
>They said it doesn’t matter if he’s attracted to her, because it wouldn’t be reciprocated.
Bulls**t. Peggy is an eager and practicing bi, not a lesbian, hence what may make her less or more attractive to men is relevant to her character and lifestyle.
Gosh, you _really_ want to oppressed, don’t you?
“Heterophobia,” jhfc on a bicycle. X’D
Tell us, please, what institutional power has been used to marginalize cishets in society? To deny their rights, to attempt to criminalize their existence as cishets in society? To bar them from housing, jobs, healthcare, educational institutions, public service, or even simply engaging in ordinary commerce?
Please! Regale us with the epic trials and tribulations of being cishet!
You. You’re entire “society”. You, with your purges of conservatives from schools, colleges, police forces, FBI, CIA, military, even the White House Travel Office. You, adhering to your 200 year old Party tradition of oppression of the people the Party tells you to hate. You and your “society” literally do right now exactly what you just accused our fathers of doing in the past, even though it was literally your Party doing it, then exactly as you do now. Literally us who stopped your oppression of blacks and women. Literally your Party who started the last shooting war *because* we stopped you. Literally us who forgave you for killing so many of your and our brothers, and forcing us to kill so many as well (YOU started the war, as you always do), all because your Party couldn’t stand losing an election.
Stop believing right wing bullshit
Everything from your second sentence fragment right to the last sentence is what far right conservatives and their less far right pals have been doing for decades, and not just in the USA, and are still doing.
You need literacy programs and serious therapy, Bug. And very possibly better parental figures.
Wow.
You are just _completely_ disconnected from reality.
Not to mention making a genuinely staggering stack of assumptions about me, personally.
*golf clap*
Last time I checked, the woke crowd tried hard to impose their view on the rest of society and cancel, harass, and ruin the livelihood of anyone within their notice that refused to worship at the altar of their ideology. If recent events are any guide, they are definitely overreaching and causing a major backlash from those fed up with their overbearing and intolerant ways.
Stop believing right wing bullshit
Not really my case. My negative opinion of woke ideology comes from my own experience and research and I am entirely able to recognize far-right bullshit as readily as far-left crap. Not even a case of echo chamber since I regularly check liberal sources as well.
Nah dude, your brain is melted. “my own research” is a huge red flag. “woke” is just another blame game on basic human decency to justify horrid behavior and make excuses for bad writing. Great shows and amazing games come out with supposed “woke”, bad shows and games come out without supposed “woke”, and vice versa. Thus woke is not an influence on policy, bad writing and execs who wanted to make a quick buck are.
Look at the terrible economic and bigoted policies of those who scream about woke.
I do not know why you deem my lifelong pursuit of a good self-taught general knowledge basis a ‘huge red flag’. Your problem, I could not care less if you do. In my case, never blame to malice, prejudice, ignorance, or stupidity what may be chalked to self-aware opportunism, selfishness, indifference, and callousness.
As a rule, given my personality and values, appeals to empathy, decency, justice, or equality to justify woke ideology and practices entirely fall flat in my case or antagonize me. I care very little for equality for its own sake, or the welfare and feelings of strangers to begin with. Therefore, I see no good reason to make exceptions to my general misanthropy for people who have a melanin excess and/or a vagina, wish to have different genitals or bang their own gender, have reasons to resent history, and so on. If you want me to care and support, show me how and why the policies you advocate are going to benefit the likes of me, or the values I care about. The latter may include freedom, truth, facts, science, efficiency, pragmatism, transhumanism, secularism, non-woke progress, and enlightened self-interest. For these reasons, I generally turn out pragmatically supportive of the liberal and social-democratic agenda as it concerns economic and environmental issues, and an enthusiastic advocate of the libertarian approach to social and personal autonomy issues.
For ideal and practical reasons, I am extremely protective and cherishing of my freedom to be a selfish and insensitive asshole in appropriate circumstances w/o life-changing consequences. I am unable and unwilling to perform the kind of care and sensitivity that woke ideology would demand from me in order to belong, so it looks like an existential threat on a personal and ideal level to me. I value my own comfort and welfare orders of magnitude more than any others’ except friends, loved ones, and other individuals I value and admire, much less random strangers. I also have personal reasons why representation and prominence of a couple specific minorities in society or fiction beyond say 1980s standards may register as inconvenient to me. Much the same way, I also have a considerable vested interest for lifestyle reasons if society stays or becomes tolerant of transactional or casual sex with no emotional commitment, porn, casual relationships, and consensual sex work that is not really different from any other job. The template of gender relationships that #MeToo feminism would impose on society looks like another existential threat on a personal and ideal level to me. Apart from this, I have no reason to resent or oppose the rise and success of other minorities or non-feminist women. Live and let live, YMMV, whatever rocks your boat, the more the merrier, and so on.
As it concerns fiction, I value narrative coherence, established precedent, and realism orders of magnitude more than any DEI concern. I was a big fan of competent, independent, successful, and badass female protagonists and main cast characters since long before sjw crap showed its ugly head. This provided they are well-done, make sense for the story, do not steal the place of other established characters I fancy, and are not mouthpieces for insufferable feminist preaching. As it concerns the rest of typical woke concerns, I find the anime/manga standard ideal where neither authors nor the audience give them any significant importance. The current standard of mainstream Western fiction where most ‘good guys’ and competent people need to be some mix of girlbosses, Black, LGBT+, and/or disabled; almost all het white males are stupid, evil, or both; and woke concerns trump anything else, registers as an intolerable nightmare to me. I hate it with the intensity of 1000 suns, and I dearly wish it eradicated by any means that do not radically screw up the world at large.
As a rule, I tend to find the far right too threatening to most of my ideals and interests in too many ways to support its success and dominance in most cases. Far-right religious extremism registers as just as much of an existential threat to me as far-left identity radicalism, just in a different way. In this and most other regards, I am an enthusiastic fan of the Horseshoe Theory. On the other hand, I may often regard the far right as a rather useful (if flawed and suboptimal) ally of convenience in the fight to keep woke craziness off the back of the likes of me. If this makes minorities and feminist women collateral damage, so be it. It’s a price I am entirely willing to pay, sucks to be them, better them than me, and so on.
tl;dr
“I choose to be exactly the opposite person that Mister Rogers believed I could be.”
Which is exactly what conservatives have been doing forever, and they’re only upset now because it’s their ox being gored. It’s hard to take complaints about “cancel culture” seriously from people whose commitment to free speech only ever extended to people like themselves.
So what? I condemn and loathe censorship attempts by religious fanatics as readily as the ones by identity fanatics. Censorship is almost never the solution and almost always it creates much bigger harm than the problems it pretends to solve. On the other hand, I am very protective of the right not to give a damn about the wokes’ pet causes w/o consequences. Admittedly, it is often the case that I support the non-woke liberal agenda for pragmatic reasons (e.g. the environment, many economic issues) or out of my own ideals (e.g. reproductive rights).
“Les cons ça ose tout c’est à ça que l’on le reconnait”
Being an hetero white male like myself , is using the easy mode in the majority of European , US and Canada countries.
For US , I’ve two caveat , blatant atheist , and not a WASP…
White -> Ok , I’m European but from the largest Europe country- Turkey and Russia being for the majority of their territory in Asia –
Anglo Saxon -> we fought them extensively – more than 400 battles – and from 1066 to 1902 we are at least rivals.
Protestant : I’m an atheist and I come from a mostly irreligious country ( In 2019‑2020, 51% of the population aged 18 to 59 in metropolitan France said they had no religion.) , with catholic traditions…
Institutional racism is directed toward minorities and the majority of right wingers despise the “droit de l’homme” – in France for symbol the 1789 “Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen” is the equivalent of you constitution –
Did you had ever encounterred persecution or social stigma for being heterosexual ?
In my country during german occupation the pink triangle (Rosa Winkel in OV) was ne of the Nazi concentration camp badges, distinguishing those imprisoned because they had been identified by authorities as gay men or trans women.
And in my country being gay is not a penal crime since 1791 an in 1942 Vichy regime criminalized it.
The vichy laws are only retracted in their entirety in 1982.
And if you look as the majority of political candidates , you’ll see whites with a token to religion and from the most privileged social class …
The far-right is dedicated only about one thing keeping their privileges.
I allway’s say that if you go out your way to look nice it’s nlce to be apreciated for going through that effort.
Makes them feel good about themselves. Try it, you might just make the day of sumebody who really needs a pick me up. Man or woman it makes no diffrence, everybody needs some reasurance now and again.
Bullshit. That way lies ‘Geez, can’t you take a compliment?’ sexual harrassment.
You can complement me on my muscles or my haircut, without trying to grope me. It’s not a binary choice between “die of thirst” and “drowning.”
Being seen at 300 meters is generally not a good thing for a sniper.
*Looks at wife’s recently done blue-and-purple hair dye.* Jay, hate to be the one to tell you this, but many people, especially women, indulge in unusual hair styles for reasons that have absolutely zero to do with sexual orientation. Most are probably allies, at least (my wife definitely is, as her Best Man can attest to), but that doesn’t mean that you should be making assumptions about the person themselves, based entirely on appearances.
A sensible word. Well said.
Sincerely, a mermaid haired girl who is only slightly bi.
Peggy is bi. She is fairly balanced in her preferences between the two genders and caring more about the person, except when once in a while hormones cause her to become eager for impregnation and go boy crazy. Her own words, back in #117. Therefore, what may make her less or more attractive to het males is highly relevant to her.
It is tiresome to see the rainbow mafia trying hard to erase bisexuals and claiming anyone that ever felt the slightest stirring of attraction for their own gender as the exclusive purview of their own tribe or with false consciousness.
You’re going a bit far on what Peggy actually said.
She’s either bi or pan but she stated it was more about the person than the package but didn’t say her preference was even.
YMMV but IMO it is the most likely case, given what we said and what we saw her do (e.g. kinda drool at beefcake like all the other girls).
Reactions like this are pushing the social pendulum back to the right. Turns out being an ultra-sensitive ass to people expressing innocent opinions turns people away from your side. The Trump campaign thanks you for your past support.
Would she also “look prettier if she smiled more”?
God forbid someone comments on the looks of a character in a comic that’s 90% fanservice.
“Why are people so sensitive about comments on women’s appearances,” asked the person who couldn’t, or wouldn’t, but in any case _didn’t_ read the room.
There is no room, this is an open forum.
Okay Drax
HE IS NOT A PRINCESS!
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Probably. ;)
Really been enjoying all the videos and posts about guys who say shit like this being cut off, disowned, and divorced.
All they said was that Peggy looks better with her natural hair colour, that’s having an opinion
yeah but so far of what we’ve seen of pre-Peggy, its been either post-crash mussed, or few days since the last washing, compared to what at least *I* think is a pretty damn good dye job. (for reference I’ve been dying my hair “unnatural” colours for decades). I wouldn’t take kindly to someone saying my greasy nasty pre-wash blonde hair looked better than my coloured hair, no matter their attraction to me.
They’re enshrining a state where she was less happy and restricted vs now where she can self actualize, contribute her skills and make her own choices about her appearance as she likes it.
It may just be that specific undertones of that particular sentence escape me from my ASD-based point of view. I have heard that it is considered sexist to say that to a woman. I don’t understand why. Someone told me (perceived as male) the same thing, so how can it be sexist?
The sentiment is fucky, no matter whom is saying it to who, even at its least sexual, “you’d be pretty if you smiled more” is essentially “I don’t like what your face looks like; rearrange your face to please me.”
I usually just tell them that I would smile more if they weren’t in proximity to see it.
Okay, so, “You’d be prettier if you smiled more” is essentially telling the person that you want to dictate their emotional state and how they express it. It’s a demand that the other person not place their own emotional needs over your own, to the point that they are expected to deny those feelings entirely.
In general, unless you have been asked for an opinion on what someone can do to improve their appearance in any way, keep it to yourself. At MOST, you should choose an aspect of their appearance that does appeal, and compliment that–and then, only if you can manage to do so without being creepy.
Huh. Thank you very much for the explanation. I think I get it now. It would never have occurred to me. For me, it was always just a statement like “the green suits you better than the blue” when trying on new clothes. On the other hand, I guess a comment like that from a stranger would be pretty weird for most people.
if it helps to further explain the idea, imagine if you didn’t care that much about what colours you wore so you didn’t wear green a lot, but the most common thing you heard from a subset of people you interacted with was you’d look better if you wore the green. See, they don’t care that you don’t particularly like green, or that you don’t own anything green, they just want you to conform to their wishes so that you appeal more to them. it’s also a way for them to subtly control you into doing their bidding.
Actually, it’s more of an attempt (emphasis: “attempt,” as in they’re trying their best) to brighten the mood of the other person. “You should smile more!” translates into “I want to see you being happy, so I’m attempting to persuade you to make the expression that’s commonly associated with happiness.”
I mean, if you’re going to use “dictate” and “demand” to describe that, that’s looking to take offense – accusing them of snarling, “I DEMAND that you be happy!”
Note: I’m not saying that people who encourage others to smile can’t be sexist. But the face is not a particularly sexual area. It’s not quite on the same level as comments about the butt, chest, etc.
I’ve heard it said that if someone can’t change something about themselves in one minute or less (e.g. your coat is the wrong way round) you shouldn’t comment on it. Unless they are a close personal friend and you’re having an honest discussion coming from a cosntructive place.
You know, the pragmatic transhumanist in me is increasingly persuaded and at ease with the notion that the least-resistance outcome to current trends re. gender issues is the one described by so many sci-fi stories: sexbots, AI-generated porn, sex toys, VR erotica, reproduction by IVF, designer babies, and artificial wombs, and intimacy between people growing marginal and an aberration. MGTOW and 4B for everyone. We are just biding our time until the technology is available.
Gosh, relationships sure are hard, huh?
How can anybody expect you to treat other human beings with dignity & respect?!
There were two funny situations resembling thia I know from in fiction:
One was in the original Battlestar Galactica where a group of pilots that were still recovering from a disease were still wobbly on their legs and argued: “You sit in a Viper.”
The second was in a Star Wars RPG book where a pilot had lost a leg and got a cybernetic replacement. His argument for still flying? “I’m faster in my fighter than the other pilots because I have only one boot to put on.”
Your anecdote about the cyborg pilot makes me think about Douglas Bader, a WW2 RAF pilot who still piloted while missing both legs. He could actually pull maneuvers nobody else could because of his missing legs. As the blood had a lot less possibilities to flow away from his head, he could take accelerations more easily.
I was thinking about Bader, too. Looked him up on Wikipedia, and was delighted to learn he survived the war and had two successful marriages (first wife died).
Bader was a total bastard in real life, his batman as a POW had to carry him, up & down multiple flights of steps to take a bath each day. When he was eligible for a return to UK as a exchange POW due to his mother dying or something Bader refused to allow it as nobody else would willingly carry him to his bath.
When Kenneth Moore was invited to a RAF dinner to give a speech, just prior to the dinner he was asked about the subject of his speech.
“I thought I’d talk about Douglas!”
“Ohh God, please don’t, most people at this dinner served or knew him & hate his guts for him being a arrogant prick”
Hans-Ulrich Rudel, the greatest combat pilot who will ever be (2530 combat missions, 519 tanks, 9 aircraft [in a ground-attack airplane], 12 locomotives, 2 destroyers, one cruiser, and half the Soviet battleship “Marat”; I can admire the wolf as I line up the sights…), for all that he was an unrepentant Nazi bastard, destroyed his last 26 tanks with a tin leg.
Douglas Bader – made ace in Spitfires after he lost both legs; was shot down and put in a POW camp, and was so annoying with his escape attempts {in one of which, i seem to remember a guard shot him in both legs and he got back up and kept on doing – the guard, who was unaware of his tin legs, was somewhat bewildered} that they bunged him up in Colditz.
There’s a juvenile SF book from 1952 called “Moon Ahead” about a secret moonshot project in the Australian Outback, in which American and Australian father/son duos get shanghaied to the Moon. It is very dated, but i enjoyed it greatly when i read it in high school {that was in the early 60s, of course}.
Anyway.
One of the directors of the project is known as “Professor Spitfire” – the reader doesn’t get any other name – because he flew them in the War.
And he has tin legs.
My dad also read the book, and he had to tell me who Professor Spitfire was…
See also Joker in Mass Effect.
I remember in the reboot of Battle Star Starbuck had an injury to her knee which they explained would have made it difficult for her to fly, due to the amount of force needed to be applied to the controls for some maneuvers would be impossible with the injury she had.
but if i remember correctly in the reboot the pilots were in a prone position in the vipers. maybe that makes a difference.
I’d be very interested in seeing rabbit pilots and paratroopers. Could be fun. Well, once you get past the fact that rabbits scream like tortured babies. Although that part could be looked on as psychological warfare. Nobody expects screaming babies falling from the sky.
As God is my witness, I thought bunny-babies could fly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmD2RfOg0Ho Bunnies can fly.
My dude, have you heard of Cat Shit One?
I too would like to see this bunship. Perhaps as a sequel to Cat Shit One. Ever seen that? Cute but brutal visual pun based upon the fact that “USA GI” in Japanese is “usagi”, or “rabbit”.
There are wererabbits so that gunship it’s just a matter of time.
Wouldn’t that just be Ryo-Oki?
No, she’s a Cabbit!
I was just coming here to make a “Cat Shit One” reference. On another note, we can always just throw Bun-Bun at them.
Well, Dave *is* needing a new vote incentive right?
I don’t suppose “Reach For The Sky” is well known in the US but Douglas Bader was a well-known British WW2 fighter pilot ace who lost BITH legs and returned to active duty. There was another fighter pilot who flew with a prosthetic arm. On the Axis side, Hans-Ulrich Rudel was a Stuka pilot who achieved great success as a tank-buster on the Eastern Front, flying with a prosthetic lower leg.
When you are fighting a big war and need everybody you don’t retire aces that still can fly in any capacity. The question is if they should fly or are more valuable as teachers.
I’m sure there were exceptions but the Axis powers for the most part didn’t rotate experienced pilots home for training duty. This really hit the Japanese after they burned through the pilots who had gained their experience over China prior to 1942. The Germans had better pilot training but it eventually caught up with them as well. Early in the war the British needed every pilot they could put in an airplane. Hence, fellows like Bader. Whatever your opinions about the U.S. roll in the war, the Americans had the resources to train up vast numbers of pilots and rotate pilots home as they gained experience. I’m not well read on the Soviet air force but my impression is that early in the war they were still recovering from Stalin’s purges and so probably put all the available pilots into the air.
If memory serves correctly, the Soviet air force was one of the worst affected in terms of sheer loss of training for new pilots during the late stages of the war, I seem to recall hearing something like a couple of weeks of training before starting combat service. Indeed, I’m pretty sure it’s that exact reason that the Night Witches ever got a chance to fly (look it up, the woman were genuine badasses and it’s an interesting story; essentially with resources extremely limited, the Soviet military allowed an all woman bombing squad using wood and canvas planes, and despite the significant handicap, the Night Witches were extremely effective and terrorized the Nazis.)
Douglas Bader’s missing legs were actually an advantage, in one respect: Blood didn’t rush to his legs from centrifugal force, so he could withstand higher G’s than other pilots without passing out.
“*I originally mistyped gunship as bunship and I almost left it because the idea of bunnies piloting an Apache and fluffy bunny paratroopers amuses me.”
Drawings?
Bunship? I think the typo should be funship
I picture the bunny with a switchblade and an intense hatred for telemarketers
I thought he hated Santa? Now I’m picturing Bun-bun dropping from the sky and assaulting. It is terrifying, isn’t it?
Bun-bun despises both.
Peggy: I guess I can fly for American. I may use the auto-brake feature more than most, but I can still get passengers and cargo from airport to airport.
Maxima: I was thinking you could fly for America, instead. I just ask you to listen to everything I am about say before you say anything; okay?
Fluffy bunny PMCs?
Cat Shit One. (manga was form ADV)
“Botasky and Packy are private contractors, working in the Middle East, with support from a distant helicopter-mobile base.”
You know tue Britain actually had a legless pilot at one point? Best they had too.
King Radical of the Radical Lands would approve
When I tried to join the Navy after high school, as my brothers had before me, I was declared 4F because I was nearsighted past the allowed degree, even though I was corrected to 20/20. I understand they will try harder to keep you once you are in and they have invested in your training and experience, nowadays.
When it comes to militarized rabbits there’s a few options.
The Lapine Empire are the Big Bad Guys in Albedo Anthropomorphics, which started as a hard scifi comic (free to read online these days) and has had both a TTRPG and a miniatures wargame made for it as well. Good source for soldier bunnies equipped with what the 1980s thought of as realistic near-future military hardware – some of which still holds up well today.
There used to be a very tongue-in-cheek minis game called Critter Commandos, which had small teams of various anthropomorphic animal species in pseudo-WW2 gear, including rabbit. The “Ratzis” were the Baddies there. Unfortunately I think the whole line is OOP and hard to come by these days. They also did a Battletech parody called Crittertek that did exactly what it sounds like. Not sure if there was a bunny-mech for that or not.
Someone out there made a Star Wars parody miniatures line that included Duck Vader, with his supporting stormtroopers having bunny ears and cotton tails sticking out of their armor. Think those are still available somewhere, although the current caster eludes me.
Pretty sure Iron Wind Metals still sells Ral Partha’s old “Doom Bunny” figs, which were fantasy rabbit men with axes and swords. These days there are a slew of anthro-bunny fantasy figs out there, ranging from STL files to print your own to novelty sculpts from regular casters, many holiday related. You can even get civilian bunnies if you wanted something to dress up your homebrew D&D town terrain or an Easter display.
Oh, and Interloper Miniatures makes a pack or two of lovely mutant rabbit-people with post-apocalyptic gear, based on the “Hoops” from the Gamma World TTRPG. They’ve also got those freaky cyclops-chicken-men from the Famine In Far-Go adventure. Not a big range of figs, but nice work overall. One of the better attempts at Thundarr & company in 28mm scale, too.
Albedo is still around? I haven’t seen that since about 1990. I’ll have to check it out.
I wouldn’t call Albedo hard sci-fi, unless by “hard” you mean something other than “hard science”. I’m seeing *very* little science.
I stan bunships.
Proofreading: Last panel, should be “witnessing” there. You’re missing an s.
That’s what I get for editing in the page instead of a program that points out my plethoric spelling errors.
And now Peggy being placed in a private ward makes more sense. Maxima knew she’d be having this chat and wanted to make sure there would be no pesky bystanders.
And that’s why Maxi entered via the window… on the fourth floor
Being radical? I always thought the main criterion to join Archon was being atypical. Not that Peggy does not fit that bill as well, mind you.
Tammy Duckworth, Andrew Lourake, Kristin Nelson, Douglas Bader. You would be surprised at how many disabled troops get back on the stick. IIRC there is a guy flying for the 160th with a prosthetic leg, and the Nightstalkers are IT when it comes to helo ops (NSDQ). It’s all a matter of motivation, if you can prove that you can hack it, you can usually get back in the game.
It also helps if you are currently at war and running out of able-bodied soldiers
Another example of a pilot missing a leg in a similar way to Peggy.
https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2016/07/23/female-air-force-pilot-amputee-returns-to-the-skies/
The article does claim that she was the first woman returning to active flying for the US air force after a leg amputation, so it would be chronologically accurate that Peggy does not yet know of it (although make examples exist).
Don’t feel bad DaveB, there was a Beetle Bailey comic where the general wanted to do a gun inspection but a typo said BUN inspection…
NOTE: There are two versions of the end gag, one had General Halftrack being mooned by the entire regiment and a censored reworking of the men standing at attention with cinnamon buns on a plate.
The general says to the readers: “Now what?!?”
When you’re good at what you do and enjoy it more. It’s an uphill battle to get back into it after you’ve been injured like this. The ones listed are exceptions to the routine. Swing by a VA. Hospital, VFW, or American legion.
I wanted to put up a picture of hard boiled rabbit troops from a 1980’s comic titled “Grimjack” but it’s almost impossible to pull those things out of the internet and even harder to find the right comic box to look through after 40 years.
Not sure if fluffy bunny paratroopers should be a one of comic here with the angle ‘don’t shoot them they’re cute’ then the Vicious Sharp teeth come out. Or suicidal bunnies (look them up) drawing fire by Intent.
Modern helicopters, with their fly-by-wire systems, can be flown by a pilot with an artificial leg reasonably easily.
In the past, when you needed both hands, both feet, and any other spare appendages you might happen to possess to fly one, it wasn’t a good idea unless the pilot was really, REALLY good.
Happy Thanksgiving!
You should draw the gunship as a treat for yourself
Depends very much on where the leg was lost. Below the knee, maybe with some accommodation, above the knee, I don’t think so.
On a whirlybird, the foot pedals control the tail rotor pitch, which in turn controls yaw. You need decent control over both feet to effectively control the bird. On a wheeled ‘copter like a blackhawk it’s worse as they also control differential braking for the wheels for ground handling, using a split heel/toe set up, that I don’t think most could handle with an unpowered prosthetic since you need to apply pressure differentially. A sufficiently skilled pilot could probably handle it, maybe with some alteration to the pedals.
On a plane you could always rig yaw to a hand control for a footless pilot, but in a ‘copter the pilot is already doing different things with their hands, as one is on the stick and the other is on the collective, and that is NOT optional.
Blackhawk Down with bunnies is something i would watch.
Yessssss, all the helicopter movies should have bunnies. Fear the adorable flying floof.
Man, now I’m gonna have to go rewatch Men of Honor.
Turns out, a one legged pilot is the least dangerous thing about flying in an Osprey. (Those things are really cool. A helicopter/airplane hybrid with engines that swivel. But, in part due to the extra complexity that brings to the vital systems that keep the thing in the air, they’ve got a long track record of crashing out of the sky without being hit. They were all grounded for most of last year for an investigation and overhaul, brought tentatively back into service, and then promptly crashed again.)
i have a nephew who does Air Force plane maintenance. Ospreys really suck. There are ten hours of maintenance on the things for every hour they are in the air. The stress on the airframe from the rotating wings is no joke.
I always get a kick out of “it takes xxx number of man-hours to keep an aircraft flying”.
It’s so misleading as to be utterly meaningless.
When I was in we were required to keep a log of the time we spent doing tasks.
The minimum time reportable was 15 minutes.
So for a six man tow crew to drag an A/C 50 yds into the hangar was a minimum of 1.5 ‘man-hours’ for a ten minute job.
Same for refuelling, three person job, but a minimum of 1.5 man-hours since it often took a little over fifteen minutes.
Same for a daily inspection, around eight trades at five to ten minutes each working concurrently but 2 ‘man-hours’ logged.
So to refuel and check an A/C after flight could be as much as 4 or 5 ‘manhours’ with elapsed time being about 20 minutes.
Snags paperwork was different, you could log as little as .1 man-hours, but doing the paperwork took that long and the little logbook overruled that and had to be in fifteen minute increments.
There is a staggering difference between ‘man-hours’ and time actually spent hands on with the A/C
A half-hour combat turnaround would be well over 10 ‘man-hours’ and we did them one after another.
If I filled my logbook as required, I could easily put in over 30 ‘man-hours’ by myself in a 12 hour shift.
He didn’t say ‘man-hours’. He said hours. There’s a big difference.
He said there’s a lot of stress tests that have to be run on the airframe and they don’t take just a few minutes to do (shrugs). He specifically called it out as the aircraft requiring the most amount of maintenance per flight hours when I asked him what was the worst plane. He really hated the Ospreys.
Now, he may have ‘meant’ man-hours, but that’s not what he SAID. I do know the difference.
My brain went to a completely different place when presented with the idea of flying a “bunship”…
At least older helicopters absolutely required two feet to fly, because the feet controlled the tail rotor for yaw (I believe), and flying a helicopter (at least used to) involve manually balancing thrust, blade angle-of-attack, tail rotor speed, and a half-dozen other things every time you made any small adjustment to any of them because helicopters do NOT want to fly. They’re very good at landing on their own (compared to most other aircraft) but flying one, if “Chickenhawk” is to be believed, is 10% book learning, 10% practice, and 100% pure instinct.
That being said, I could absolutely see (heh) a BLIND Sonar technician. Not much light on a submarine anyways, and nothing should really be moving around aside from the people who’re making noise.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_of_Honor
(Based of a VERY True story.)
Every time someone talk about fluffy bunnies, I think of seeing Watership Down when I was seven.
I like where this is going…
Anyone else bothered by Peggy going heavy on eyeliner? I mean she has all the rights in the world, but in a hospital bed it just seems way off…
As far as I’m concerned, if it helps improve the patients morale (ie makes her feel better), I’m all for it. Military injury / wound recovery really used to suck. I don’t know how it is now, last experience was with my daughter in 2016.
FWIW…some people actually have thick eyelashes….it’s *NOT* just an invention of the Cosmetics Industry…
It’s not that heavy, she just can’t get at one so she puts twice as much on the other ?
Or maybe it’s tattooed on for permanent glare reduction when shooting or flying ?
When confined to bed with a disfiguring injury like her eye, it’s the little things that make you feel more human.
Max’s ‘eyeliner’ is heavier anyway so she isn’t out of uniform ;)
I thought Max’s look was more of a “built in” feature since her skin is more or less nonstick permanently..?
>”The military is probably not great for disability inclusion.”
You’d be surprised. Had a dude get his legs amputated below the knee from his truck catchingh an EFP (misznay-Schardin effect explosive device. Basically, a concave bowl of copper in a pipe, backed with explosives that creates a supersonic molten copper jet that’ll slice through a couple inches of steel and some poor mother-Hubbard’s legs.)
Guy was in an infantry unit in our brigade and got hit at the beginning of our deployment and medivaced back to the States. We finished our deployment 12 months later and got “redeployed” back home.
First 5 mile morning PT “death run” after getting settled back in, who passes our formation the opposite direction and starts running circles around us at mile #3? Dude, with a pair of those carbon fiber running prosthetics. Wasn’t even winded.
I was like Sydney finding out about Dabbler’s prosthetic hand.
When I was trying to get in the Navy ROTC, they looked at my preliminary test scores and decided they wanted me to be a WSO (back seat driver) in an F-4. Even with my uncorrected vision of 20/400 they wanted me, but I didn’t fit in the cockpit with the canopy down as I had more than 39″ butt-to-crown height and would have been too tall to close the canopy.
I know from my own time in the military that the military is willing to make “exceptions to the rule,” particularly if the person has a skill that the military needs. I remember there being a Medical Corp colonel who was morbidly obese. Lots of people would ask how, given the height/weight standards in the Army, this colonel was allowed to stay in. The reason? He was literally one of the world experts in his field, and if the Army had made him leave, they would have had to turn around and hire him at about three times what they were paying him as a colonel. So yeah, they looked the other way on that point.
Probably been mentioned, but brunette Peggy is really throwing me off.
“Bunship” Botasky be like: Pew. Pew. Pew. Camels fall over.
‘And if anyone tells Max that a one-legged pilot shouldn’t be allowed to fly an Osprey, Max is just like, “Come at me, bro.”’
Then Maxima is a moron, simple as that.